Where to Draw the Line

Production Date: February 27, 2016 Practice Areas: Ethics and Litigation Estimated Length: 4509 minutes


$ 89 Ethics and Litigation In Stock

As attorneys, we have an ethical obligation to zealously represent our clients. However, a fine line exists between acting as a zealous advocate and engaging in “Over-the-Line” litigation. In this program, attorney Robert N. Agre helps attorneys identify where “the line” is and what to do when one’s adversary is litigating from the other side of it. He provides effective strategies to combat overly aggressive litigators and explores the ethical limitations on "how far" an attorney can go in terms of providing her or his client with zealous representation.


Learning Objectives:

I.      Identify who is an “Over-the-Line” litigator

II.     Learn how to handle such litigators

III.    Recognize ethical implications for “Over-the-Line” conduct

IV.    Navigate candor to the tribunal v. zealous representation

This course originally appeared as a part of our February 2016 Bridge the Gap Event.

Katherine S.
Lombard, IL

on a scale of one to four, this course deserves a five.

Kyle J.
Alexandria, VA

Great presentation.

Eugene M.
Kildeer, IL

Superb presenter; an exceptional webinar.

Tom G.
Montgomery, TX

Knowledgeable speaker with practice tips that were from actual events. Helpful.

Gregory W.
Atlanta, GA

Good presentation. Effective without being long winded.

Ron P.
Bothell, WA

great presenter

Alec S.
Seattle, WA

This was the best presentation and substance. Wow!!!

Jennifer I.
Torrance, CA

Interesting program

Stacie F.
New York, NY

This speaker was phenomenal. The course content was fantastic and speaker made it incredibly interesting. Highly recommend.

Becky M.
Henderson, NC

excellent speaker. addressed serious issues and made US make our own choices. great!

David L.
Millburn, NJ

I liked that you included the question and answers segment at the end of the lecture.

Amy F.
Buffalo, NY

excellent speaker

Robert T.
Denton, TX

The presenter was excellent.

eric c.
Audubon, NJ

Mr. Agre was clear and concise and kept my attention throughout.

J. M.
Orem, UT

Excellent Presentation

Jonathan W.
Carrollton, TX

Thanks for reprinted audience questions on the screen at the end during QA

Kristine C.
Dubuque, IA

Good presentation. Walking to and frough a bit distracting.

Robert D.
Spokane, WA

Fantastic presenter! Turn him loose on anything he can do regarding other classes.

Chris R.
Las Vegas, NV

This seminar is must viewing for any litigator and should be included in any Bridge the Gap or Transition to Practice program.

Alexandria M.
Glen Cove, NY

There really were no definite answers on where the line is. It seems we just practice in the grey area and explain to ethics board why we did it to benefit our client.

catherine m.
Kettle Falls, WA


James V.
Bronx, NY

very good

Josh N.
Boca Raton, FL

Well presented, interesting

Chris K.
Houston, TX

One of the best presentations I have listened to. His personal examples used to illustrate his points were terrific, and lead to analyses and recommendations that you might not ordinarily expect but were extremely valuable and, well, the best for promoting justice. Fascinating.

Daniel B.
Lookout Mountain, TN

Very important subject matter in an ever decreasingly professional environment. Did not overload you with information, and the examples were relevant and backed up with case law. This was an enjoyable and well thought out course.

Martin W.
Tinley Park, IL

Interesting examples - well done.

Laurie B.
Seattle, WA

Very interesting.

carol b.
Houston, TX

Very accomplished speaker who knows what he is talking about.

Robert G.
Inola, OK

I appreciated that the cases discussed were actual cases. Very helpful.

Sarah L.
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm not a litigator but I have dealt with some difficult attorneys - I found the information useful.

S.A. M.
Atlanta, GA

Clarifying and helpful

Amy H.
McLean, VA

This was the best CLE course I have watched. I wish every course could be this interesting and informative.

Charles W.
Houston, TX

Good presentation

Randi M.
New York, NY

very interesting

Gavino M.
Austin, TX

A very well-presented course.

James L.


Casandra B. W.
Chicago, IL

Excellent instruction

Jose L.
Salt Lake City, UT


William T.
Lisle, IL

Very useful tips on dealing with difficult situations.

David F.
New York, NY

enjoyable and interesting

Kristen C.
Thornwood, NY

This was a great presentation. Helpful and so interesting!!

Hector V.
Austin, TX

I enjoy this speaker's style and his use of real world stories. This was a thought provoking lecture. I will be looking to take more courses from this speaker. Great job.

Jay S.
Chicago, IL

good course

Lynn F.
Rochester, NY


Kevin X.
Rowland Heights, CA

excellent presentation. thank you.

Rich W.
Rockford, IL

Very Interesting subject matter.

Eric P.
Chicago, IL

Mr. Agre is very good

Steve S.
Chicago, IL

Agre is fantastic!

Kelton P.
American Fork, UT

Most excellent

Erica B.
Greenwich, CT

Excellent course

Grazia L.
Norwalk, CT

excellent presenter

April P.
Sayville, NY

This program geared towards litigators, but interesting none-the-less.

Daire I.
Buffalo, NY

Basic but interesting

Sandra S.
Buffalo Grove, IL

Useful information, great presentation!

Robert E. S.

Very nice, clear and well-articulated presentation..

Nicholas F.

Excellent speaker with common sense and great real world examples. A fine job.

Daniel S.
Spring, TX


Dominick D.

One of the best ethics classes I have heard - nice mixture of real case scenarios and the ethics rules.

Stephen N.
Brooklyn, NY

he was excellent

michael a.
Hartford, CT

Nice presentation. Thank you.

Jonathan W.
New York, NY

One of the best Law Line lectures.

Paula P.
Pelham, NY

enjoyed presentation

Henderson, NV

Great course! The issues were very well presented.

Robert G.
Chesapeake, VA

Very clear and concise.

Russ C.
Staten Island, NY

Dealing with the "Rambo" lawyer that we are all faced with at some point in our careers. Well said.

Mitchell D.
Sea Cliff, NY

Very practical and useful seminar.

Stephen M.
Tyler, TX

Very engaging, frank grappling with difficult ethical questions.

Zvi S.
San Diego, CA


John K.
woodbury, NY

This was a well planned out and interesting lecture which covered some tricky topics in this area of the law. Thanks for such a great presentation.

Mi-Sang S.
San Diego, CA

Great communicator and the lecture was engaging

Michael W.
Orange, CT

Good presentation

Jason H.
New York, NY

Best instructor to date.

Edward R.
Mokena, IL

The portion of practice tips on how to deal with the "Rambo Lawyer Opponent" was the highlight of the presentation.

mark w.
New York, NY

excellent presentation

Kenneth R.
Manhattan Beach, CA

He is very good!

Susan Z.
Pearland, TX

Possibly the best ethics course I've ever watched

Jennifer S.
Santa Barbara, CA

Entertaining and informative!

John P.
Huntington, NY

Very knowledgeable

Raymond L.
LIberrtyville, IL

Great Course

Don K.
Houston, TX

good topic

Diane E.
Justice, IL

An area that is very thought provoking

Eric C.
New York, NY

Well-done lecture.

Harrison F.
Houston, TX

Very good material and presentation.

Derek F.
Jersey City, NJ

This instructor was awesome -- incredibly engaging, and his use of actual case-law examples was perfect. Other instructors should use him as a tutorial.

Laurie L.
Montclair, NJ

Very listenable; compelling instructor with interesting and instructive case studies.

randal m.
Dallas, TX


Steven L.
Cypress, TX

Terrific Discussion of a very difficult area of practice.

Karen B.
Orangevale, CA

An excellent presentation and helpful candor. Thank you.

Shannon T.
Mansfield, OH

I liked this speaker - he knew his stuff and presented the material well

Carlos A.
Sacramento, CA

Very well presented and an engaging speaker.

Trisha D.
nesconset, NY

Excellent course. Fabulous speaker. Engaging and knowledgable. Content very interesting

Erdal T.
Verona, NJ

Excellent presenter.

Zarkower M.
Rye Brook, NY

Nice video.

William M.
Manhattan, NY

Excellent presentation.

David O.
Laurel, NY

Excellent program. Very useful and informative.

Evette C. E.
Queens, NY



Well Done.

Annette D.
Maplewood, NJ

This was a particularly engaging CLE.

Ali Q.
queens village, NY

Very good course!

Ed S.
new york, NY

terrific suggestions for practice. VERY straightforward.

Elana R.
Skokie, IL

Great job with a difficult subject.

Marc A.
Allentown, PA

Great instructor.

Carl S.
Cerritos, CA

Great Lecture.

Steven W.
Squaw Valley, CA


john d.
columbus, NJ

best one i have seen yet.

Lin C.
Woodland, WA

Extremely clear and well done.

Vincent C.
Portland, OR

Well done

Amy F.
Lockport, NY

excellent way of wrapping material into stories

Margaret H.
Spring Valley, NY

I wish I had heard this before first trial!

Todd P.
Berkeley Heights, NJ

Good delivery by Mr. Agre.

Mollie K.
Houston, TX

This was very interesting - dealing with a Rambo lawyer.

Victor L.
New York, NY

Excellent examples of real cases

Peter S.
Niagara Falls, NY

Attorney Agre is a very compelling speaker.

Jesus V.
McAllen, TX


Anthony L.
Wilton, CT

Clearly presented.

June B. F.
Lake Zurich, IL

Excellent presentation

Holly R.
New York, NY

He did a great presentation leaving the audience to grapple with some tough answers! Thanks!

Katherine F.
Teaneck, NJ

Excellent presentation.

Cole C.
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm not a criminal attorney, but very interesting subject matter.

Louise B.
Aroma Park, IL

good discussion and suggestions to some tough situations

thomas f.
manasquan, NJ

Once again, an outstanding presentation that was delivered by a clear expert in a compelling manner. Very very good.

Michael S.

Excellent presentation, very thoughtful analysis of extremely complicated issues.

Ingrid H.

Great talk!

Terry B.
Wayne, NJ

good course

Hugh A. P.
Fort Worth, TX

Good seminar

Nancy H.
Fallbrook, CA

Really excellent presentation, especially w/r/t the realities of criminal defense.

Francis M.
Rockville Centre, NY

Speaker is clear, precise and plain-speaking, making content easy to understand

Kirk L.
Black Mountain, NC


Paul F. C.
North Aurora, IL

Outstanding presentation. Very thought provoking. Should be a required course for every attorney.

Alphonse D.
Totowa, NJ

Very informative.. thought provoking

Theodor S.
New York, NY

The written materials were very helpful.

Scott B.
Plano, TX

Great presenter. Both knowledgeable in the subject and personable enough to keep it interesting without "getting lost in the weeds" on a complicated subject.

aaron g.
Los Angeles, CA

very good, effective delivery, presentation, command of subject

Ellen C.
Rockaway Park, NY

Very practical

Julie A. B.
Hiles, WI

Good integration of examples while highlighting effective strategies that combat aggressive "Rambo-like" litigators accompanied by a thorough exploration of ethical limitations on where to draw the line when providing zealous advocacy for a client.

Derrick R.
Venice, CA

Much enjoyed. Thank you.

Patricia L.
Boonton, NJ


MaryJane M.
Brewster, NY

This course was excellent.

Peter G.
Phoenix, AZ

Mr. Agre did an excellent job balancing both sides of ethical issues.

Christopher S.
Ward Cove, AK

Excellent presentation filled effortlessly with important information. Impressive faculty.

Richard A.
Naples, FL


Barbara S.
Forest Hills, NY

Lecturer made the subject interesting with vivid examples, such as the seasoned defense attorney who was being mimicked in front of the jury by a young inexperienced but very aggressive prosecutor. Those kinds of examples make the lessons memorable.

Matthias G.
Homewood, IL

Very helpful

Alan L.
Marshall, TX

Loved this guy. Practical advice based on real cases and actual experiences are very educational.

Joseph B.
Danbury, CT

Excellent speaker

Edward K.
, TX

Ethical scenarios considered that I had not experienced. Rambo lawyer narrative parallels a colleague's experience -- very helpful and practical!!!

James L.
Staten Island, NY

Another good ethics CLE course.

Walter M.
Portland, OR

Great CLE dealing with Rambo litigators

Mona P.
Jamaica, NY

Instructor cited solid examples that really help make the concepts memorable.

James L.
Sag Harbor, NY

practical and useful

Edward G.
Batavia, IL

Really excellent

Rummana A.
Champaign, IL


Scott S.
Uniondale, AL

A very interesting presentation.

Mark F.
Dallas, TX


Mark W.
Fort Covington, NY

presenter was excellent, very interesting

Michael M.
Carle Place, NY

Clear practical advice

Philip H.
Seattle, WA

Good, concise practical.

Lawrence G.
mokena, IL

good instructor

Gerald C.
mount morris, NY


Retha M.
Columbus, GA

The course is most helpful for trial attorneys.

Michael G.
Riverwoods, IL

Very informative lecture. The presenter was really knew his stuff.

Irena G.
Brooklyn, NY

explains well

Debra K.
Woodbury, NY

very interesting

Richard M.
Hamburg, NY

program was quite good. Presenter was excellent

Christopher B.
Melville, NY

He made this course interesting.

lisa h.
evanston, IL

An excellent speaker.

Rodney S.
Staten Island, NY

Fine presentation

jens o.
Montclair, NJ

Excellent Presentation

Henry S. S.
Rochester, NY

I found this presentation exceptionally outstanding. It was very informative and very thoughtful

thomas m.
Greenwich, CT

a great use of real experiences in the courtroom

Angela A.
New York, NY

Excellent speaker and presentation.

Monica B.
Staunton, VA

Speaker did an excellent job. Instead of talking about extreme cases of clear ethical violations, he discussed cases a typical lawyer may encounter and how to approach these ethical grey areas.

Andrew B.
New York, NY

This is the real deal on how to deal with clients and the ethics behind it. Understanding these concepts is the foundation to becoming a defense attorney worth his salt.

Gia C.
New York, NY

Speaker was great.

Susan P.
Brookfield, CT

addresses numerous issues of ethics encountered in practice

John L.
New York, NY

Very helpful.

Steven Y. S.
Highland Park, NJ

very good

John K.
New York, NY

Very well done - the "real-world" examples were excellent.

Daniel R.
Hewlett, NY

Excellent presentation from a very experienced attorney.

Marguerite K.
New York, NY

A knowledgeable and experienced lawyer with heart! Fabulous!!

Susan W.
Lafayette, CA

Excellent talk

Michael W.
New York, NY

Great course. We have all run into Rambos during our respective practices. Confirmation on how best to deal with them is more than helpful.