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Overcoming Age Bias In the Legal Profession, With a Discussion of ABA Model Rule 8.4(g)

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Produced on January 20, 2017

$ 59 Ethics, Discrimination & Harassment, and Civil Rights In Stock

Course Information

Time 65 minutes
Difficulty Intermediate

Course Description

Join the presenters Andrea S. Kramer, partner in McDermott Will & Emery, and Alton B. Harris, partner in Nixon Peabody LLP, for this important program about eliminating age bias in the legal profession. Understanding age stereotypes and the biases surrounding both younger and older lawyers, allows legal organizations to effectively combat age discrimination, while improving generational harmony. Ms. Kramer and Mr. Harris will provide techniques that participants can use to avoid or overcome the biases they face or observe as young people enter the profession while others grow older. They will also discuss the unique biases women lawyers face as they grow older. Additionally, the program will review the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, age discrimination workplace complaints, the status of litigation, and ABA Model Rule 8.4(g) and the effect that this recently expanded rule has on the definition of professional misconduct [discrimination].

The presenters are practicing attorneys with extensive experience in law firm management, hiring and promotion, compensation, stereotypes and unconscious bias. They have served in senior management positions at their law firms and have in-depth experience with all aspects of personnel management, including recruiting, hiring and firing, individual and team supervision, compensation, and promotion. They have co-authored more than 30 professional and gender-related articles and book chapters and they have collaborated in mentoring women in a variety of positions and fields and speaking to business and professional groups about overcoming gender bias, and webcasts and blogs on the elimination of bias in the legal profession. This course is based on their personal experiences and the research used in their book, Breaking Through Bias: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work, Bibliomotion, Brookline, MA, 2016.

Learning Objectives: 

  1. Understand the age stereotypes and biases that are prevalent in the legal profession.
  2. See how gender stereotypes and biases interact with age stereotypes to discriminate against women over 45 years old.
  3. Sensitize male attorneys and the organizations they run to the negative effects of age stereotypes and biases.
  4. Provide all lawyers with effective techniques to avoid or eliminate age bias in their organizations.


Andrea S. Kramer

McDermott Will & Emery LLP

Andie has vigorously worked to remove discriminatory barriers to women’s career advancement for over 30 years. Despite her successful and demanding legal practice, Andie has helped thousands of women navigate both obvious and subtle gender-based obstacles to successful careers. Her keen insights into the nature and operation of gender bias and her pragmatic techniques for avoiding or overcoming these obstacles have made her a nationally recognized authority on gender discrimination, the nature and operation of stereotypes and biases, and practices and policies to increase women’s leadership opportunities.

Andie is the co-author, with her husband, Al Harris, of Breaking Through Bias: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work (2016) and It’s Not You It’s the Workplace, Women’s Conflicts at Work and the Bias that Built It (August 2019). She is a co-author of the American Bar Association’s guide “What You Need to Know About Negotiating Compensation.” She has written hundreds of articles and blog posts, and she’s a Forbes contributor.

Andie is a partner in an international law firm where she was the first chair of its Gender Diversity Committee and now takes great pride that her firm has recently been named one of the “10 Best Big Law Firms for Female Attorneys.” She was named one of the 50 Most Influential Women Lawyers in America by the National Law Journal for her “demonstrated power to change the legal landscape, shape public affairs, launch industries, and do big things.” She also received the Founders Award from the Chicago Bar Association, the Women with Vision Award from the Women's Bar Association of Illinois, the Inspiration Award from the Coalition of Women in Law Initiatives, and was named the 2014 Gender Diversity Private Practice Lawyer of the Year by ChambersUSA for her outstanding contributions to furthering the advancement of women in law.

Andie is a dynamic, inspirational speaker who conducts workshops around the country on gender, bias, communication, and workplace relationships. She draws on her research, work advocating for women, and professional experiences to provide realistic, detailed, and readily usable advice. More about Andie, her writing, and her upcoming speaking engagements can be found at

Alton B. Harris

Nixon Peabody

Al was a founding partner of a Chicago law firm that, having grown from five lawyers to 125 lawyers, merged into a much larger national law firm. Al served for many years as managing partner and then as a member of its Executive and Compensation Committees. In these roles, he had extensive experience mentoring and advising women in many career fields.

Over the course of his career, Al has grown increasingly concerned about the barriers and biases women face in gendered workplaces, characterized by masculine norms, values, and expectations. Al’s extensive research, astute observations, and pragmatic voice have made him a nationally recognized advocate for women’s career advancement.

Al focuses on the communication skills women need to advance in their chosen fields, despite the prevalence of negative gender stereotypes. A frequent lecturer and keynote speaker, Al speaks to women about what male colleagues expect from future leaders, offering creative ideas and useful techniques for women to be seen as talented leaders. Al also speaks to organizations about the negative effect that gender bias has on their organizations, providing practical steps to eliminate gender bias.

Al is author with his wife, Andie Kramer, of the book Breaking Through Bias: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work, which was named one of the best business books of 2016 by Women@Work and “a well-organized, well-thought-out call to action: by Publishers Weekly. Their second book, It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace: Women’s Conflict at Work at the Bias that Built It was released in August 2019. He is the coauthor over 175 articles and blog posts on promoting diversity and overcoming stereotypes and biases.



very interesting

Gerald C.


John L.

So true.

Pat C.

Great Discussion on a topic that needs it.

Daniel O.

Important topic well presented; bibliography of references welcome.

Gregory P.

thank you.

Dave D.


Alexia K.

Thank you for addressing the issue of bias against younger lawyers!

Stephanie O.

Fun presenters. Lots of interesting statistics; made you think.

Daria T.

Excellent. adorable couple and lots of good advice for older lawyers, and older female lawyers. Thank you!

Rasheed M.

This was a good ethics course.

Robin E.

As a 57 year-old female attorney, I was very interested in the content of this program! i

Yuka K.

A lot of information I've never even considered. Enlightening.

Virginia M.

I enjoyed this course.

Sandra N.

Excellent course. I gained insight as to what skill sets I can focus on as an older attorney when seeking new business opportunities.

Robert S.

very relevant to what is happening in today's workplace especially after recession

Donna W.

The two instructors were so engaging! It was heartening to see watch two accomplished lawyers address such critical and pervasive issues. I could watch them all day!

John C. T.

good give and take with the two faculty

Stephen K.


Amanda H.

clear, thought-provoking, and inspiring

Eve R.

Helpful examples.

Abrar Q.

excellent and important. thank you

Pamela M.

Very insightful

Florence D N.

Great informative discussion

Daniel P.

Good class and coverage of topic.

Lisa O.

Very informative and much "food for thought"

Bethanne H.

Very important topic.

Ralph P.

Good team teaching!

Carol S.

Great Faculty

Raymond L.

Great Course

Alinka T.

I enjoyed this ethics and topic very much. Enlightening.

Carolina S.

great program - very informative!

Ruth G.

Practical information about stereotypes across the age range and how to address those in the workplace.

Julie A. B.

Thought-provoking presentation. Admirable level of detail bolstered by statistics.

John W.

enjoyable presentation

Karen M.

Very well organized, thought-provoking & useful (no matter what your age) -- thanks!

Mary Ann S.

Excellent level of detail and useful supporting statistics.

Diane H.

Really enjoyed the presenters and the powerpoint.

Carey M.

Very interesting!

Holly R.

Great perspectives and insight. Thank you!!

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