Ethical Considerations in Client Perjury
About this Program
What does an attorney do when a client commits perjury? Sarah Jo Hamilton and Barry Temkin discuss a lawyer's duties under the Model Rules of Professional Conduct as they relate to client perjury. They give a practical approach to tackling these issues through case law, the Model Rules and personal experience. While the Model Rules provide a basis for lawyer conduct, there remain inconsistencies in the law that are discussed in this course. This is a must watch ethics program as Hamilton and Temkin provide great insight on these important issues.
II. Sources of Ethics Law
III. Duty to Disclose Fraud
IV. Model Rules
V. Nix v. Whiteside
VI. People v. Darrett
VII. In Re Doe
VIII. Inconsistency in Law
important ethical subject.
Great lecture, bery informative
One of the best seminars so far. It relates to a real-life situation a client of mine is in.
Very good presentation that made sense of a subject with vague contours.
Great ethics discussion
Enjoyed it - best so far. Funny.
I liked the speakers better than the materials, really
Covers the topic in an organized way and addresses major issues in this area.
Good seminar; interesting topic
a good review on this topic
Coordination of written materials with talk useful.
I usually hate the ethics courses, but this one was pretty interesting.
Engaging and informative. My favorite class so far.
Actually, an excellent program -- very well organized and presented.
The presenters did a fine job with some very dry subject matter.
The info that came up while they were speaking was great.
excellent treatment of an important ethical issue
these two are smart, affable, organized -- great preparation and presentation. highly recommended.
The program was excellent. It gave me much food for thought.
Very clear discussion.
The speakers worked very well together, and complemented each other nicely.
Well done! Thanks!
Really enjoyed this one
The course was informative and provided clear written materials.
Excellent course. Good substantive content.
Excellent use of colorful and memorable anecdotes to illustrate their points.
Extremely well done. Mr. Temkin unlike his previous psentation was well organized and directed in his remarks.
Very interesting and helpful discussion.
Ms. Temkin was fabulous!
enjoyed the movie reference
Quite practical. I found this course very helpful.
Temkin and Hamilton address ethical issues in a manner which allows and requires the practitioner to consider not only what a lawyer's obligations are under the model rules and opinions, but also makes one ask the more important question: what do honesty and integrity require in a variety of specific situations. The guidelines they discuss are clear, but their invitation for all attorneys to consider the greater obligations underlying the rules, is to be highly commended. More from Temkin and Hamilton, please.
enjoyed their insight
Good presentation. The two presenters complimented eachother and kept the program lively.
Liked the movie fact pattern.
I thought it was very informative and I liked the comparison about the movie "Primal Fear."
thought provoking hypotheticals were good.
two speakers made it better
This seminar was very well done.
Very good presentation of a typically boring topic. The technology and convenience of the course is impressive.
I found the presentation very informative and extremely enjoyable to watch and l to isten to
Good Presentation and informative.
Interesting subject matter that was well presented.
Combination of the speaker "team" very well coordinated. This, plus the written/slide presentation material is nicely done. I found the hypotheticals, plus the cites to real cases/scenarios a nice touch.
An interesting and relevant CLE that I would recommend as a good way to obtain ethics credit.
Great speakers. Loved the examples! Easy to follow and understand.
Convenient,substantive, and well thought out.
Excellent use of slides to engage the listener.
Very convenient and actually enjoyable.
Thank you for well prepared and presented CLE.
Instructors presented the materials very well and provided useful information.
It was excellent. I learned a lot
I really enjoyed the humor used in the breaks for the verfication codes!!
The material is well presented and I will recommend the course to others.
Very good overall.
a great help on difficult distinctions
very interesting material
tough subject to keep very exciting. good job presenting
well done ibformative
Sarah Joe is wonderful.
best so far. interesting
Very good, excellent presentation, both lecturers were a pleasure to listen to.
Excellent knowledge of the case law and the application to real world situations.
definitely one of the better courses.
Very interesting. I enjoyed the course, particularly the part on criminal cases.
Thank you, very informative.
Very interesting and helpful.
Little too much focus on NY for a national course.
Ms Hamilton spoke very well and clearly, made it easy to pay attention.
I enjoyed the format and the presentations by both speakers.
Excellent and entertaining. Easiest ethics credit I've gotten in years.
Absolutely -- clear, in-depth, interesting, well-done.
Good explanation and discussion about ethical issues regarding clients and false statements.
Good presentation. Interesting.
Really useful and good presentation. Covered the issue soup to nuts.
tricky business, well explained.
This is one of the best ethics courses I have ever taken. It makes up for the bad course, supervising legal research that I listened previously.
Interesting, informative, well-presented.
Great use of cases and great hypotheticals.
Good perspective on client perjury and appropriate (required) lawyer response
I enjoyed the dual presentation by both presenters. Both were knowledgeable and informative.
Speakers tag teamed the information very smoothly. Very informative and well spoken team.
Good, concise explanatory discussion of tough ethical issues regarding testimony...I enjoyed it and found it informative.
like use of hypotheticals and written notes.
Very professional. They made a dry subject matter interesting. Great dynamic between the two speakers.
Very informative... very interesting
These two were really good presenters! Really enjoyed their case studies and they explained everything very clearly. One of the best ones I've watched so far and a very interesting topic.
Good speakers and good subject matter.
Much clearer on client perjury than most.
Very specific, but very informative
This was interesting.
Good team work.
Excellent. Both lawyers great. Best seminar so far. I wonder if Sarah Jo and Barry are too young to remember Charles Laughton in "Witness For The Prosecution."
Excellent presentation. Presented very cohesively.
Any presentation that discusses the movie Primal Fear is A-Okay in my book. Although I would think that every attorney should know how to handle the situations addressed in the seminar, the speakers kept a good pace going to keep the audience engaged.
I thought it was informative and direct, without a lot of the anecdotal material that sometimes clouds other CLE classes
somewhat confusing presentation and materials
Great use of movie/real case examples.
Good use of interesting cases!
I love this subject. I am dealing with these issues now.
a little dry, but enlightening
Very good - very good presenters!
well organized and presented, good integration with materials.
Interesting and comprehensive.
Excellent use of hypotheticals and case law illustrations. Mr. Temkin and Ms. Hamilton played off of one another very effectively and presented themselves well.
It was OK
This is an outstanding seminar. The speakers provided an excellent presentation of a very complicated subject matter in a very understandable manner. Exceptional offering.
Great presentation on a complex subject.
The presentation and outline was crisp and nicely paced. Informative and nice summaries.
Very difficult subject matter for a practicing criminal defense lawyer. People would be surprised how often these issues come up.
Thanks for speaking about criminal issues and not simply civil and transactional.
Good discussion on interesting topics.
this is a professional and i enjoyed it-joe bak
It was helpful to hear about cases that explain the lawyer's duty to disclose client's false testimonies.
Interesting concept - it's not often that you get to hear about perjury. I liked it very much.
Enjoyable and convenient.
fun and thought provoking. not a typically parochial NY-law presentation; addressed to a national audience.
Good for an ethics seminar.
Informative discussion of the ethical principles for an attorney whose client may perjure himself.
The use of case law to explain the subject matter helped.
Some entertaining examples
practical, thorough, good examples
I enjoyed both of the presenters. This was an informative discussion.
nice hypothetical use--good video.
This one was really useful.
The hypos in this course were particularly helpful and illustrative of the rules in play.
Great course; interesting material, engaging presentation, useful references and hypotheticals, well-informed presenters.
Area we all need.
Great team and material.
Temkin was a much stronger, better speaker. I look forward to more courses from him.
Very informative. Good examples.
Excellent presenters with a great deal of sustantive information!
Very interesting and important CLE.
One of the best so far.
The presentation held my attention from beginning to end. Actually interesting and enjoyable.
A good and informative course.
Held my attention throughout; the two speakers worked well together. Easy to watch!
Outstanding ethics CLE. Lawline delivers again!
Very informative...good scenarios.
Very good presentation with interesting anecdotal observations. High-minded and thoughtful. Kudos.
good coordination between the two speakers.
This seminar was very informative. The subject matter was addressed very thoroughly in a short amount of time.
Good program. Thank you.
My first MP3 CLE Course. It was a good experience. Thanks.
Good overview and I would recommend - but not enough about NYS.
very thoughtful discussion of constant knotty problem & dilemma.
Very good seminar - the camera panning back & forth is good.
Very interesting subject matter
Not my normal field so I found it diverting as well as interesting.
Good use of hypotheticals.
There were no written materials
Slide presentation was excellent.
Anyone who can make an ethics lecture interesting deserves high marks.
I found the seminar to be very insightful.
Thanks for case citations - makes all programs more useful
good examples and cases for discussion
I appreciated having the outline on one side of my screen as the discussion/lecture was proceeding, and the use of interesting scenarios. This course was very beneficial to me.
This course is great for any attorney with clients that may not be on the up and up.
Thoughtful approach to thorny questions.
Liked listening to two different speakers to break up the lecture and keep it moving and interesting.
First time I have done this. Very good. Will do so in the future
speakers and materials were good
A very good reminder of where some of the landmines lurk.
Very good. Both Mr. Temkin and Ms. Hamilton were engaging, and able to make a subject matter that is a bit dry able to hold your attention for the time.
Good selection of cases.
I would like to vote a very enthusiastic 4; a truly outstanding course, which would benefit every lawyer.
entertaining examples and verification code presentation
BArry and Sarah Jo offer some very interesting ethical issues to ponder.
As before - very happy with both the quality and content of the CLE.
I strongly recommend this course.
Thought-provoking presentation. Use of examples to get info across was excellent.
Excellent program. Both speakers were good.
Good overview of a complex topic.
Seemed to start out slow, but once the speakers' enthusiasm for the subject took over, it was a fascinating class!
Good coverage of difficult material.
It was interesting.
very strong and clear--- excellent presentation by both speakers
Made good distinctions between civil and criminal law ethical considerations
Particularly interesting ethics presentation with very knowledgeable and well prepared speakers. Thank you!
Very clearly presented and easy to follow.
Interesting differences between jurisdictions.
Very nuanced and difficult subject that was handled well by the instructors
this one is really well done.
On ethics you probably should have state specific speakers since not every state follows the model rules; speakers had to generalize too much.
Good material, nicely presented.
Good course! Speakers were very clear. Good use of cases and Model Rules to illustrate points.
Wonderful presentation on client perjury--clear, to the point and helpful. The speakers also framed their presentation in terms of the ABA Code and Model Rules rather than in terms of a single state's law. Bravo!
Very good seminar
They did a very nice job.
Both of the presenters introduced the material in a logical and easily understandable manner. They clearly demonstrated broad understanding of ethical considerations!
I appreciated the examples used to illustrate the issues. Very informative and interesting.
Concise and well organized. Very informative.
I enjoyed it and I think the content is very relevant to modern day practice in my locale.
Very informative. I enjoyed the tone and inclusion of Hollywood movies for help with a real life reference.
I thought this was an excellent presentation! Very well organized, good case citation examples, and very clearly presented.
The team is more interesting than a single talking head.
Excellent presentations by both speakers
Good discussion on a critical issue for anybody representing the general public in particular.
A great lecture on the subject!
I liked the two person format alot.
I liked the panel.
I liked how they used the movie as a hypothetical, it was a good way to illustrate the point. Interesting topic, what constitutes actual knowledge, lots to think about.
Very fascinating subject - well taught!
It was a good program.
This seminar was so interesting, that I will watch it again
Very helpful and practical.
For once! An Ethics course that is interesting! I have always wondered about the Richard Gere movie...Thanks!
Very well done. Shockingly interesting. Loved the stories and examples.
Enjoyable and informative. Liked the conversational tone.
Excellent presentation and very informative. A number of different scenarios were presented, which aided in comprehending the material.
Very good and understandable.
This seminar should be a requirement for law school students prior to graduation.
Very useful, practical, and well presented!
Solid and good materials.
This should be mandatory viewing for every member of every bar assoc!
I liked the technique of introducing the hypothetical at the beginning, but then discussing it in depth at the end of the presentation. It was helpful for framing the issues discussed during the meat of the presentation.
Both speakers were very knowledgeable and presented the material well together. The topic was well covered, both as to criminal and civil areas, and while a seemingly narrow subject, in ethical consideration, is very important. Well done.
I liked the idea of two speakers
The discussion of the narrative testimony in criminal cases to deal with the client perjury or potential perjury was informative.
Useful insights for the unwary.
Good hypotheticals and case examples.
effective use of film hypothetical; speakers had excellent command of material
Very informative and interesting
glad to have the comparison between criminal and civil questions--often the false testimony decisions are criminal, so finding civil comparisons are difficult
The speakers were well prepared and cared about the course. Very well done.
Excellent content and speakers.
Speakers were very engaging; substantial content
This was a great speech.
Good subject excellent explanations of the issues and how to deal with client prejury
great hypotheticals and examples.
Enjoyed this so much I watched it twice.
I really liked this CLE. The analogies were very helpful.
very thorough discussion despite murky nature of the law. Use of real case law and hypos to illustrate subtle but important distinctions is very helpful
The selected illustration cases were interesting and corresponded well to the Rules being discussed.
My first experience with a Lawline course -- VERY positive. Thank you.
Very good presentation and information.
Very interesting. Liked the scenarios.
Very good content, very interesting lecture. Nice use of examples including the movie example.
Interesting topic Good presentation
Good use of hypotheticals.
Very interesting seminar
Two person format worked well here.
Great hypotheticals taking you through the rules for perjury in both criminal and civil cases.
Good course on a difficult area.
Well presented. Very interesting and instructive.
Important lecture for any litigator.
Excellent speakers, technology and presentation.
Good pace----no delay on part of speakers while they considered what they were going to say. Such delay is a common event. Excellent substance.
This was the best presentation in all of the law line material. The attorneys had case law and hypotheticals that were very helpful. They were well prepared. I wish the others were like this one.
very interesting and will come in all aspects of the practice of law
Thoughtful advice for tricky situations.
Learned new things
This is a very useful format. I will enroll in similar programs in the future.
The two presenters were very good... worked together well... interesting and thorough
good civil versus criminal distinction
This was a very interesting and relevant topic. I do encounter these issues more frequently than I would like.
I enjoyed this seminar. I thought it was very informative.
excellent content and presenters
Very interesting program.
Good, considering it is a complicated subject with contradictory rulings from the courts.
I always find when people sit and talk it is more challenging to keep the interest - but the substance of this program was excellent.
EXCELLENT, AS TO EACH PRESENTER
This was one of the better Lawline CLE's.
Very, very informative. Thanks.
best lawline class I've seen so far
Great course organization, bookending it with the movie reference was really useful.
Effective and convenient
This is an excellent lecture.
best I have seen thus far
Interesting to compare Criminal & Civil
this is one of the best courses i've seen as an employment litigator. i know that defense counsel knows the employer is lying many times, now i know what to do about it. thanks!
Both instructors presented valuable information and shared the time well.
both presenters were very good
really liked this one
this is my 2nd lawline seminar - just purchased the package. Very impressive.
Well designed class.
Very interesting course.
I learned a few things.
Very good. Thanks
very informative and well done.
Both were excellent.
Very good discussion
lots of good information on this topic
Very informative and enjoyable.
like the panel
Good team approach to discussion/presentation; Materials - easy to follow; Laid out issues well.
this seminar answered questions i had about this issue of ethical disclosure to the tribunal relative to attorney-client communications
This session was superb. Just excellent!
Very good distinctions of situations where client perjury must be reported.
engaging and like the incorporation of the movie examples.
Excellent presentation of topic
Great course for everyone
Very well structured, and flows very easily.
Speakers were very informed and presented well.
Very well done!
good coverage of ABA Rules